Friday, July 13, 2007

Utah’s Contribution to Global Cooling

As a biology major and Legislator, I have a basic knowledge of science and politics. The global warming hysteria represents the absolute worst of both disciplines.

I do not have adequate data to make a conclusive determination regarding the effects of human activities on global warming – and neither does anyone else, no matter what degrees they hold or how many people they hold hands with in the echo chamber. Hypotheses, yes. Conclusions, not yet.

(Trust me; Utahns know about premature scientific conclusions.)

Global warming potentially is a huge deal; that being the case, we need to seriously study its causes – which means there needs to be plenty of room for scientists to hypothesize that human-induced warming theories are crap and to study other causes. That’s how science works. It is a very “hostile” discipline, where advances often are made by someone saying, “I think everyone else is dead wrong,” and, then, proving it. But the academy is snuffing out any “dissenting” research by the “deniers.”

Global warming is the Left’s evolution-issue – where the pre-determined conclusion dictates the data or even precludes data collection.

If they had their way, many on the Right would ban serious scientific study or political deliberation of evolutionary speciation. Why? Because – without adequate data – they (1) believe they know the correct answer or (2) are worried some other answer will be found.

Likewise, if they had their way, many on the Left would ban scientific study or political deliberation of human-induced global warming. Why? Because – without adequate data – they (1) believe they know the correct answer or (2) are worried some other answer will be found.

So, first off, people should take a deep breath, and let scientists study global warming from different perspectives. Okay, whatever; no one really cares what I think about that big issue.

But, here’s where I might have something substantive to offer. Regardless whether it is real from a scientific perspective, human-induced global warming is very real from a political perspective. For example, Gov. Huntsman met with Gov. Schwarzenegger and committed Utah to get on the eco-political bandwagon. This is troubling to legislators who are worried about the effect such measures could have on the State’s economy. (Note: while the article correctly identified that Sen. Stowell and Rep. Noel do some ranching and farming, it failed to mention that both have some pretty serious scientific backgrounds – a masters in chemical engineering for Dennis and PhD-level studies in biology, I believe it was, for Mike).

As noted here, Sen. Stowell and many others also are troubled by the unchecked invasion of cheat grass in the West. Cheat grass promotes fire cycles about 5 times more frequent than does native vegetation. Those frequent fires lead to more cheat grass, which in turns leads to even more fires, and on and on. Thus, if left unchecked, we can expect more-frequent and ever-bigger wildfires.

And that’s where the serious political solution might be found. If we aggressively go after cheat grass and re-establish native flora, we would:

  1. restore the marvelous western lands to their rightful glory;
  2. help animal species that rely on the native plant species;
  3. greatly reduce the number and scope of western wildfires; and
  4. reduce the carbon emissions from the unnatural fire cycle.

This would seem to be good from all angles.

This article states that the impact from wildfires equals 40% of fossil fuel emissions. This article argues that wildfire-related impacts are far greater than that. Why not look at reducing those emissions, in part, by restoring natural fire cycles in the West? Possibly placing the conclusion before the data collection, the first article surmises that global warming is leading to longer summers and, thus, more wildfires. Why not turn that around and consider another possibility? Are unnatural wildfires leading to global warming?

The start of the increase in atmospheric temperature coincides with cheat grass’s onslaught in the Western United States and with the slash-and-burn push of people into the tropical forests in other areas of the world. Add those things together, and you have an ugly suspect standing in the global warming lineup. Let’s take a closer look at that suspect.

24 Comments:

Anonymous F. Ted Nugent said...

Are you kidding me? A couple of months ago, we were barely hitting 90F. Now we are approaching 100F EVERY day. It's even worse in Utah's Hell. If that isn't global warming, what is?

I am very concerned about global warming. That's why I am designing a car made of hemp and am moving into my basement where I can stay cool without turning on the A/C.

But seriously, global warming is a good opportunity to get us to reduce energy consumption which will reduce our dependence on foreign oil. The Wall Street Journal had an article yesterday showing that about one-third of our trade deficit is due to imported oil. Reducing energy consumption equals fewer imports equals keeping more of our money in America.

It's also good for national security. Even though we don't directly import much of our oil from the Middle East (we get a lot from Canada, Mexico, and I believe Nigeria), our high levels of consumption keep the world price of oil high, and this benefits those who want to subjugate us and impose Sharia Law on us.

8:43 AM  
Blogger Marshall said...

Sounds like you are onto something Steve.

Why don't you be the first person to have a peer review paper published that exposes the global warming hysteria?

For some reason none of the other "scientists" that question global warming have felt the need to have their ideas evaluated by their peers but we know you are different.

Here is the link to submit your paper to a peer reviewed journal - http://www.submit2science.org/

Please let us know the results of the peer review along with the link to your paper so we can share it with everyone in Utah.

Imagine being the first person to question global warming to get their paper in a peer reviewed journal? You will be the envy of Utah.

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On a serious note - Did happen to take a look what that same journal that published that wildfire story also had to say about global warming?

"The scientific evidence is clear," the AAAS Board says in a new statement. "Global climate change caused by human activities...is a growing threat to society." - link

In your world you want us to wait until we have a hundred percent certainty that we know everything about global warming before we attempt to solve the problem. That is beyond foolish when dealing in the real world, I would hate to see a manager govern with that ideology, no decision would ever be made.

We will never know everything there is to know about how our climate works but what we do know points all to the same conclusion. We must act now if we have any hope of finding a solution.

7:23 PM  
Blogger steve u. said...

Marshall,

You've attacked a strawman. I don't argue that we should wait until we have a hundred percent certainty. Instead, I argue that we are not ready to make a conclusive determination on the human-causes of global warming, which simply means we don't have enough data to reach a conclusion.

In any event, you misread the piece. Realizing the political reality of people wanting action before we have conclusive evidence (and, yes, the possible wisdom of such action), I make a solid proposal for curbing global warming; cut the fire cycle and the resulting emissions by a factor of 5. That would be huge.

What would it equal -- all vehicle emissions in the state? I don't know the answer to that; I'd like some help on relative amounts of emissions.

In taking on the fuel source for those hyperactive fires (cheat grass), we would not slow the economy in any way (to the contrary, we'd boost it) and, no matter what, we'd have the other benefits I mentioned for the rangelands and animal species.

I'm not in the business of doing scientific papers, but I am in the business of working toward political solutions. I put one possibility on the table. Do you have one you'd care to add?

9:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Macro-Environmantalism lends itself well to political globalism and has been the home of many radical leftist groups, not the least of which is world socialists (ie communists). Global Warming is the perfect issue to media front pages. Its always hot somewhere in the world everyday. The fact that we are in a warming cycle is not difficult to defend. Since the overall effect of the human element is impossible to prove, it can't be disproved either. The leftists invent the explanation, ignore their own burden of proof (he who asserts must prove), place that same burden on anyone who dissagrees, and wala, a convenient man made disaster. Ain't politics grand? Voin Campbell.

9:38 AM  
Blogger Marshall said...

So what level of certainty is good for you to stop calling this "global warming hysteria"?

All the data right now points to one conclusion, we are changing the level of CO2 in the atmosphere. There is more CO2 in the atmosphere then at any time since we can take ice core samples. Maybe your biology degree can tell me if this doesn't raise some concerns.

I don't have a biology degree and I didn't even bother to take one biology course in college (but I did take several chemistry courses) so I pay attention more to the political reality and political solutions of our dependence on fossil fuel.

So here is what I have to add.

Right now we are dependent on countries that hate us for our energy needs. After 9/11 we should of had a President that made a declaration of energy independence, no longer we will support people that hate us. But sadly instead we had a President that asked us to go shopping.

We can never drill enough to satisfy this country's need for energy, we must explore alternative energy if we are to become energy independent. My primary concern is the long term vitality of our country but helping to stop global warming is just a very appealing byproduct to me.

I see this more as a national security problem but it also is an opportunity to for us to reclaim the innovation advantage that the US has always had. Look at the amount of advancements that came from the space race, most of the technologies we use today can be traced back to that investment.

Why couldn't the same thing happen with alternative energy? Other countries will also be dealing with some of the same problems soon and we should be a leader just as we were in the space race. Think of the jobs that could be created and innovative companies that could invigorate our economy if we were to have some leadership on this issue.

But that requires leaders that will ask of this country what is necessary to remove our dependence on those that hate us and to create new industries instead of feeding old ones. This President should of provided that leadership but he did not and Republicans like you have followed meekly when you know better. You and anon want to attack us for being far left when the reality is that many of us are pragmatic people that wonder what has happened to our country. We want to leave this country in a better condition then how we were given it. Isn't that the desire for every generation? Do you think that has happened under Republican leadership? That is not too much to ask but sadly Republicans seem more concerned with looking out for their friends than looking out for our country.

3:55 PM  
Blogger steve u. said...

Marshall,

I'm not quite sure why I'm getting a lecture for PROPOSING a solution (and a pretty dang good one at that, I think). In any event, why degrade to pettiness and name-calling?

I asked if you had any solutions to propose. That's what I'm interested in. While I do love a good lecture, I fail to see any solutions you put on the table.

5:28 PM  
Blogger Marshall said...

Sorry for the lecture but I am attempting to move the debate from whether humans cause global warming to is investing in alternative energy in the best interest of our country and state which I argued it definitely is.

The proposed solution is to invest in alternative energy at the local, state and national level.

Going after cheat grass is definitely a good thing mainly because it is not native vegetation and as you pointed out is easily combustible.

But the bigger question of how we should become energy independent should not be ignored. We have some really smart people working on this problem in our state, we have some really smart students ready to excel in studying these fields in our state university, you could provide some great local leadership to make sure we are investing in finding the next great alternative energy supply and I hope you will provide some real leadership on this issue.

Ignoring this problem by saying we don't have enough data is not a sufficient response. PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP. Our state should and could be on the leading edge of developing these technologies. I hope you propose some legislation to ensure we are.

6:17 PM  
Blogger steve u. said...

Marshall,

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not sure I need to be a true-believer in human-caused global warming to agree with the ideas you propose.

Clearly, a great nation should work toward energy independence. And, doing it in an environmentally responsible manner needs to be the end goal (whether due to global warming or good old clean air). But, I still do need ideas of how you propose we get there. (In case you haven't noticed, I can be a bit dense).

Would you consider nuclear an acceptable alternative (20% of our energy porfolio currently, with zero carbon emissions, and despite no plant having been built since the '70s)? The byproduct of nuclear is hydrogen, which could be used for fuel cells.

A problem with wind and solar (as I understand it) is that, without better energy storage techology, they are not "stand alone" energy sources; anyone who relies on wind or energy, must have power when the wind isn't blowing and the sun isn't shining -- meaning we haven't done away with coal/gas fired plants, we've just undercut their economics.

Please -- start the education.

6:35 PM  
Blogger Marshall said...

Scholarships or major student loan deferment packages for students studying Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry and Engineering would be a nice start.

Increased salaries and major student loan deferment packages for public school teachers with Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry and Engineering majors to prepare the next generation.

Tax credits and incentives along with development of a research park for companies researching alternative energies. See the Research Triangle Park in North Carolina. (link)

Innovation is what made our state and country great, these are where the next great jobs will be, these are the next generation of industries that Utah should be a leader in but we have to invest in this stuff now if we want it to happen.

And the Steve Urquhart department for biochemical technology has a nice ring to it.

6:57 PM  
Blogger steve u. said...

Bingo! What great ideas! I'm on it (always have been for differential pay) -- except for the Steve Urquhart building. That would have to be the Department of dumb jokes and lame stories.

7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although I to not believe Al Gore and his conveinient lies and want nothing to do with the eco-golobalists, we still have common ground. There are good economic and national security reason to support agressive alternative energy solutions in addition to developing our traditional energy resources.

11:38 PM  
Blogger Reach Upward said...

It's very interesting to see where agreements and potential solutions lie if we get past the dogma and focus on the common outcomes many in various camps want.

11:17 AM  
Blogger Jesse Harris said...

RU: I was thinking the same thing. When we focus on results rather than methods, everyone wins.

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